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What are the pros and cons of each board?
What are the pros and cons of each board?
Nitin
Hi Divya!
There are multiple differences between various education boards.
On a quick basis, while CBSE is academically inclined, ICSE is academics and collaboration through projects, IB is more focused on exploration based learning staggered across subjects. I also recommend you to read this Blog where I have answered these in much detail.
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here's the link : http://www.parentune.com/parenting-blog/icse-cbse-ib-choose-the-right-board-for-your-child/448
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While most of the competitive exams like medical, engineering are alligned to CBSE syllabus, ICSE syllabus is similar as well, with minor changes between grades. IB on the other hand has a very different syllabus and curriculum, which is not alligned to the competitive exams in the country.
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Feel free to ask a follow up question on this in case of query.
What is the age criteria for each board? The child should be of what age when he reaches class 10? M....
What is the age criteria for each board? The child should be of what age when he reaches class 10? My son is 12 years and in class 8 CBSE school. Is he eligible for his Class 10 or will I have to make him repeat Class 8?
Nitin
Hi Kavita!
Hello Nitin
Nitin
Even within boards, there are different age criterions for the entry age. Say for e.g. Delhi has it at 3 years as minimum at academic session start, Mumbai & B’lor have 3 years and 6 months, B’lor even has 3 years and 8months in some schools. It’s good that you are thinking ahead for 10th. For grade 10, there is a minimum and maximum age definition as per CBSE. These are 14 years as minimum and 16 years at maximum. So if your child is 14 years or more in grade 10, would be eligible to appear, in case not then, shall do a grade twice.
Ok and what about ICSE
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In such a case if he falls short, then, it would be better to repeat grade 8 and let him use the year on building blocks of key concepts in his interest areas and subjects.
Exactly I was thinking the same
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Also, icse is flexible and doesn't have an age limit in most of the schools. Some of the schools though follow 14 as the floor and 16 as the ceiling there too.
Also Nitin I would like to ask my son wants to join NDA after 12th...si which board would be more helpful to him to clear the entrance tests
CBSE or ICSE
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CBSE and ICSE both have alligned syllabus, though the NDA exam has a distribution of content from grade 8,9,10 more than ggrade 11 and 12, over the last few years.
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between the two CBSE is more alligned to NDA entrance, but ICSE is not far off. on the other hand NDA has SSB, in which they focus on the alround personality. there ICSE board has got advantages over CBSE
Thanks a ton Nitin. That's all for now
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most welcome
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all the best! :)
I am currently looking for Nursery admission for my kid, can you guide me which board will best suit....
I am currently looking for Nursery admission for my kid, can you guide me which board will best suite him for his holistic development.
Nitin
hi Shweta!
Hi Nitin
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Could you elaborate a bit on holistic development bit, so that I can suggest you accordingly
I mean not academically well but he understand every thing without feeling pressure of just exams and tests
he should understand everything nit just "ratta-fication"
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ok, so as I understand you are looking at options with a balance of learning as well as beyond learning - physical development, cognitive development, extra currics. right?
yes
also they should clear the concepts
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While CBSE is tagged with the "rote" learning approach, they are making ammends to change it. like they have now got the "coscholastics" assessment in their system as well.
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having said that, long way to go before it gets well implemented
yeah, so what is the right choice as per today
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ICSE right from the beginning has been a mix between academics along with the projects-based approach, which fosters collaborative learning.
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I can help you with differences shweta :)
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you would know the best to choose between them
yes
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Then comes in IB
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IB focuses on fostering exploration and wonder at early ages, with seemingly lesser focus on academics as such, especially in comparison to the other boards.
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This helps the child in the wonder-years, to explore surroundings.
so do you recommend any gud school in Gurgaon, which follows collaborative learning and ex-curricular as well
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having said that, even IB has been criticised over the years for missing out academics/learning milesones, and then suddenly over-burdening the child in senior classes
ok
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I understand what you mean, and so feel that you could explore beyond boards, more into each school to make an informed decision.
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In gurgaon, Heritage is a good example of a school which follows these two areas well.
ok and do have academically gud repo?
I mean Heritage
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There's shikshantar too, an off late Shiv Nadar is trying to build themselves in this direction. still a long way to see implementation though
ok
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Academically, they have been criticised in the past for senior grades like grade 10 onwards, but they have improved considerably since then
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You could also look at exploring scottish high
ok
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These 3 are closer to what you have in mind for your child
Scottish is ICSE
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True, they also have IGCSE later
what do u mean by IGCSE?
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But most importantly, visit all the three, speak to a few fellow parents whose chlldren are going to these schools and get the latest on them.
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It's an international board, also called the cambridge board losely
will it benefit in any way
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not really, more importantly it should fit well to your criterions, beyond board in this case
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check these 3 out in Gurgaon, and whet with fellow parents, you could even connect with parents on the community, and get their opinion
does Scottish has gud repo in class X and XII percentage?
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am sure you would choose the right one :)
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its alright, not the best though
ok thanks
so what is Best:)
Heritage?
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sure, feel free to ask me a follow up question here, shall try to answer
I want Best school yielding best results
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i won't recommend any one, don't endorse any one of them, i think the parent knows the best for her child. that is you. :)
yeah ok thanks
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I can help you choose
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all the best shweta!
Are there CBSE affiliated schools with modern learning approach methods ( similar to IB board approa....
Are there CBSE affiliated schools with modern learning approach methods ( similar to IB board approach) in Delhi/NCR.
Nitin
hi neha!
Hi Nitin
Nitin
CBSE and IB are very different in their approach neha, so none which are simila to each other.
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If you see my recent answers to shweta's questions, you would get a drift.
In continuation to your response to shwetas question wherein u suggested few schools, whats your take on Kunskapsskolan school
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It's not near the other 3 i mentioned
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is all I would say
Hows the school otherwise in your opinion
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New school, heavily marketed/advertised, and trying to get there is what i would say
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too early to say about it's outcomes
We are traditional family and looking for a school that can provide holistic development
along with strong foundation
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holistic development - like shweta defined, right?
yeah
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and in delhi or gurgaon?
GGN
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then I would say the same options as last one
and in Delhi too
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Delhi - Mothers international, vasant valley, tagore are good options on those lines
Also with regard to IB schools,do these schools have snobbish culture, make kids too meek?
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IB schools are the most expensive schools in terms of fees
what are negatives of IB school
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so there is a certain disposable income group which goes for these
agree
and Hows the culture
in general
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it's true that these are better off and slightly upper income group audience. so it's not about the school so much but more about the societal/income group differences
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that's driven by the parents
ok
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on the "meek" bit, a child could be equally meek or strong at any of the boards, it's not so much about the board, it's more about the environment and child's personal preferences
What i meant was - can the IB school culture make child meek
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IB early years are more focused on exploration, and not so academically inclined as so it's thought that it's an easy going board, but if you look at the Diploma prgram (grade 11, 12 equivallent), i would rate it as tough or even tougher than any other board
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I don't think so Neha
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basis the facts, and the orientation board is not what would make the child meek or strong anyways
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hope this helps
Yes thanks a lot Nitin. It was great chatting with you.
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In case you are looking at IB as an option, you could look at Pathways, american school
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likewise neha
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all the best! :)
Which board is more interactive and encourages co-curricular activities?
Which board is more interactive and encourages co-curricular activities?
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Hey neha!
HI Nitin! How you doing
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IB the most in early years (PYP program)
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great neha, am running slow :)
:)
Is it advisable to shift the child between boards?
as he grows?
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how old is your child?
she is yet to start school
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ok
does play school play a role in selecting the board?
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if the chage of board happens within early years/classes it is normally not such a challenge, it becomes difficult for the child post grade 6/7
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preschools are board agnostic, so not really
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but yes, preschool helps parents asses the kind of school they would like for their child
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is she going to the preschool?
What's the right age to start preschool?
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normally 18 months is good as an entry age, but provided the child is able to speak a little, ask for water, food, help, to go to toilet.
She is one and a half but speaks quiet clearly and knows her concepts well...
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That's great then
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You could start evaluating preschools for her
any suggestions in GGn
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You could even start with a mother-toddler program in case you/your partner has time
and criteria i need to keep in mind before making the final plunge?
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there are several good ones in gurgaon, in fact a lot of them are good
can you please throw some light on the mother-toddler programs
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mother-toddler programs are where the parent and child can go together and spend time together around concepts, learning, socializing, clay-play, flash-cards and so on
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and it can start as early as 1 year and 2 months
are there such programs in Gurgaon?
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there are
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some of the options in gurgaon to look at are
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pallavan, intellitots, pathways
Thanks :)
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on criterions, please see this page http://www.parentune.com/Pre-Schools-Ranking
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the rankings are last year, so won't be updated, but the criterions are handy
sure
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use these to assess the preschools, visit them and spend at least 45 minutes in the preschool to get a sense
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:)
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all the best neha!
My son is in 8th standard in ICSE board. I have realised that the ICSE students are so much under pr....
My son is in 8th standard in ICSE board. I have realised that the ICSE students are so much under pressure with so many books but ultimately they compete with low standard boards while in the 10th standard. They score good marks but still not considered for better colleges. Are there any good colleges for them after 10th? and which?
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Hi shweta! I understand your concern
hi nitin
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Mumbai is attuned to the ICSE results, have you encountered otherwise?
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unless you are looking at colleges in other cities as well for graduation, like Delhi
i am looking out in mumbai
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Mumbai, B'lor , Jaipur are places which give at par consideration to ICSE passouts, at par with other boards
i have a friend whose son is very intelligent, scored good marks in 10th. But he did not get admission in desired college
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and what was the challenge?
in mumbai
The state board is on priority for admissions, unless and until the child scores excellent marks more than 95%
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challenge - i mean why could he not get through?
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OK, now i got it, the state board results being touching the roof in % visavis ICSE, which has a different assessment approach
pls help me with the list of colleges after 10th for ICSE pass outs in mumbai
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did i get it right?
yup
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All colleges in that sense shweta would be open to ICSE passouts
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now comes in the question of benchmarking.
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so the good ones are already doing that, they look at ICSE and state board results differently and they don't mix the two, just that, there would be other criterions as well, like extra curics/ any scholarships / coscholatics. If the child has those interests, then it adds well.
thanx nitin! also, i need a clarity. is it true that an IB board passout gets a priority if he/she need to study abroad?
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also, in case of junior college, there is a benchmarking by board, and not across boards.
got it
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IB board - diploma program (grade 11, 12 equivallent) is in line with the international syllabus, especially in the US/UK, and hence does have an advantage, especially in case where ther IB school has a tie up of sorts with the international univ
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hope this helps, all the best!
What are the options after 12th for students from IGCSE?
What are the options after 12th for students from IGCSE?
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hi! same as any other board
hi
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but added/easier to tie up options with international univs especially
oh that is great, is it possible to switch from SB or CBSE to IGCSE
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which grade?
11th
after 10th
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Which grade is your child now?
7th
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which board?
CBSE
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and why do you want to change his board?
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You want to go for IGCSE?
Heard International board would give added advantage for study abroad
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The advantage is mainly because the syllabus and the approach is in sync with International Univs. IN that case IB would be better than IGCSE
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in case the idea is to go abroad (US, europe) for higher studies
and also i have a child yet to join school, so want to know how the switching etween noards, like moving form CBSE to ICSE work.. say form 6th grade onwards
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otherwise, even a CBSE passout can appear in a SAT exam and score well to enter one of these univs
there are no good ICSE schools nearby my plae, hence couldn't join now itself
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hope that helps
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you mean ICSE or IGCSE?
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the two are different?
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the two are not the same i mean
yep, i mean ICSE for now... only CSE school are near
by
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one is a delhi based Indian board and the other (IGCSE) is cambridge board
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in case you were to change a board, i would advice to go for it asap, try and not change the board beyond this year.
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as your child is already in grade 7, or else it would become highly challenging for him to adjust.
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even now, it won't be easy
oh yeah, hence the confusion ..
thanks for the time
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most welcome mahalakshmi! all the best!
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hi shweta!
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did not understand the question
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please do ask another one
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i shall answer the other query by then
Which board is suitable for a child who is a kinesthetic learner and learns through experience?
Which board is suitable for a child who is a kinesthetic learner and learns through experience?
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Hi!
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Great to read this question
Hi
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my congratulations to you to have taken this approach to your child's learning
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really, so good to read this
Additionally I want to know your views on good IB/IGCSE schools in Mumbai / Navi Mumbai?
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a Kinesthetic learner needs two key things apart from others to foster her learning
I discovered that in her DMIT test
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freedom of movement, an open area to learn and a lot of resource material to try various approaches
Ok..what are these?
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DMIT is an indicative, reasonably ok test
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so thats a good indicator
So how do I select a board/ school based on that?
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so essentially, an environment conducive to exploration - both inside the classroom as well as outside
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library and experiential sessions with mentors is a key to such learners
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basis these two criterions, CBSE may not be the most preferred
Ok...but aren't the new assessment methods in CBSE more application oriented?
Also evaluates comprehension, attitude etc I heard
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IB has a focus on creating stimualting surroundings with resource material to foster exploration, especially right from the early years, even the concepts are introduced in that manner, so it scores over other boards in this case
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CBSE is trying to implement that, but is not successful, not as yet
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thats true, it has coscholastic assessment now, but the implementation can be much better
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wheras, IB has this as an integral part of their approach, and so it scores better on these 2 parameters over other boards
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ICSE is better than CBSE in these though
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so, clearly the choice is between ICSE, IGCSE and IB in that sense
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SIS (singapore international), Ecole Mondeal, Dhirubhai Ambani, Oberoi International, Hiranandani are some good options there
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Hope that helps. All the best! :)
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