Stay Calm - Yelling Does Not Help!

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Very true article.. I often yells at my daughter although she is very calm and soft spoken. I always feel guilty but I am out of control all time. I used to be very calm and positive person but I think I am being very short tempered. I will try to follow the tips to make life happier.

It's well written and so true to reality.

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A wonderful approach to not yell at a kid. Thanks

the promise abt u r taking that we should do with our child it contains a lots of meaning that children will also learn how to we can change our habits .they will help us to be good. really....

the part you shared that whatever u do u cudnt please everybody is absolutely the case for me .thanks for ur inspiration i shud lso move strict for d betterment of me n my son

nice tips.. even i love to read books on positive parenting... can u suggest a book 4 me... nd ma kid s 2yrs old nw..

Very useful information. I will follow that.

Very informative... I need to imbibe this change...

very nice article

yelling automatically occurs when your child is not in a habit to listen in a polite and toned voice several times .....I had been watching this behaviour since long and the moment you raise your voice then listening happens. then what to Do??

superb mam very helpful

it's v difficult to do it... m still tryg but no use

good. thanks for sharing your experiences

Thank you for sharing

Absolutely right

very nice

Wow, wonderful. Keep on sharing

Nice article... will try to follow

thanks dear will surely try & implement on ur suggestions...

Wow.. it looks tough but i gonna seriously try this Thanku so much ...

Thank u so much mam, this blog is very useful to me ......

Very nice article tysm for sharing!! Me too often yell to my son and than i feel i am doing wrong.

Very nice and helpful article. Thank you very much.

THANKS for the nice article. my son (6 yrs) s hyper active but he s very gud in studies. there s no complaints about him at school.. but he s very naughty in the house. sometimes he hurts himself by jumping from the hights. he doesn't understand the consequences.. he always try to do adventurous things. I shout at him every now and then bcos he won't listen to me at all. I sometimes feel that am caring him too much.. I feel very bad for shouting at him after he goes to school. I know it's me who have to be calm first and try to make him calm. but the moment I get angry nothing comes to my mind except shouting. I will try this "statement method" for sure. I think yoga will also help me... any advice is appreciated..

That is a very positive article though a little difficult to implement but surely not impossible. I guess self realization is the solution for the innumerable problems that we have. It is always good to keep learning new things in life and I guess everyone will agree with me that motherhood comes with alot of happiness but definitely problems also. It is our outlook that makes all the difference.

thanks for your suggestions... your 5th point is so true... thnq

You have hit the nail

wow resonates with me completely unlike parenting experts terms.... wow

Thank you deepti for such a useful post,

Waw... Really nice Depti I will all so try

Waw... Really nice Depti I will all so try

A. Super cute way to takle life:-))thnx

I absolutely loved your post. im completely against hitting a child but then can't resist to yell at times. you have perfectly analysed the reasons why we feel like behaving that way. Off late I am counseling myself in this way that I am my daughter's primary caregiver and her support system for life. it is my responsibility to handheld and guide her till a certain age but then she is an individual too and will have a mind of her own. she may be wrong at times,may stumble but then she will rise and learn from her mistakes. And at the end of the day ,it is the only dream of a mother to raise an independent and confident child ready to take on the outside world on her own.

Hi deepti, thanks you so much for your suggestion, even I yell on my kid most of the time but after that when I rethink what happened I feel sorry even though I say myself not to yell most of the time I do the same mistake, I will follow your advice and try it

l shall try this as you say in my style

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Very well written in talkative language. I found lots of scope to improve myself as a parent! Thanks

This works for sure.. I also tried this... yes we scream on our kids but these small tips have big impact on us and help us in making our relation better with our kids..

Thanks for the write up. It's the one for me at the right time as I kind of lost my voice due to continuous screaming and I still not stopped yelling. In fact after a very bad yelling today morning and with very upset mood I started reading this. I Will practice and once again thanks so much.

This one is nice blog I will apply in my relationship with my daughter

very true information as I face the same trouble

Now my kids also have started yelling and shouting normally specially my elder one and younger one he just doesn't get tired... he is charged up all times... but gets wild physical and it's difficult to control him Can u help me on how to manage it

Now my kids also have started yelling and shouting normally specially my elder one and younger one he just doesn't get tired... he is charged up all times... but gets wild physical and it's difficult to control him Can u help me on how to manage it

I too scream at my 3 years old son almost daily..... After that I take an oath not to scream or beat him... but again I break my promise and repeat the same... I feel very bad. ..now I asked him to say ''don't get mad amma please stop it'' , whenever I'm angry. . It works sometimes... But ur blog is worth reading and good suggestions are given... I would try yoga

I'll try it..

I'll try it..

Very nice article. Thanks for sharing. But I have a query. How you managing, when the kids not listening?? For example, my son is lazy, after completion of his homework, he leaves the books on the table and goes. When I shout he take his books and keeps it in the bag.

i will try my level best to stop yelling at my son...

great blog inspiring thought we should implement it my son is big naughty he does not listen to me at all post like this help a lot

great blog inspiring thought we should implement it my son is big naughty he does not listen to me at all post like this help a lot

Thank u so much still expecting more ideas

Its really a great message... i ll also try to implement this method in my home with my son... I really felt very bad when i often shout at my son... he is such a naughty boy... at times i used to yell and sometimes even beat him... after that i always felt ashamed about myself for behaving in such a rude way... keep posting like this... its really goin to help us...

Something really positive to start the day with ... Hi -time I needed some lessons

It's really a great article. Thank you so much.

Inspiring thoughts and looks realistic.

Inspiring thoughts and looks realistic.

Its very nice blog. Gave me a positive energy. Thank you so much for sharing.. ☺

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Nice blog. I love to read this kind of blogs and apply it on my son.

I surely practice from now, wanted a solution for this from long time

very nice blog... your experience will definitely help us...

nice blog and very practical to apply

Hi very nice blog

really v helpful m meaningful blog... keep updating...

hi, ur blog is one of the best i have ever read... its very impressive n helpful.. great job

hi very nice blog. ur suggestions are good but in practice it's becoming difficult .

hey thanks for your suggestions ..... will definitely try

nice blog! I totally agree with that .

very useful n positive thoughts. And very true....

v true! I totally agree. it is possible not to yell with kids but we have to work on ourselves in this process. that's what is the most difficult task but worth doing it for our kids.

true said Dipti. thanks for sharing this blog. main reason for me to yell on my daughter is my stress and health. I want to finish my task and take some rest but my daughter she do according her mood. I try hard not yell on her as it not going to help me anyway but sometime loose my temper.

Very true

each and every suggestion is so true. I have tried some of them and the results were positive. will work upon others as well.

I do agree to your words and actions .Earlier I also used to yell on my son (6 years old) but I have seen when I say him anything softly he is a good listener. Taking care of our health and good sleep may be less time is essential for us as mothers. Actually I felt that whenever I was under stress I shouted on him and the reaction was same from his side. Meditation is of great use to keep us calm. My son's performance in school and his behaviour has changed a lot since I have taken care of my actions.

awesome solutions. thy are working for me. thanx for ur blog dear.

very very useful tips

Very very useful

thanks a lot mam... i'll surely apply in my daily routine

thanks a lot .these are very useful tips. we ultimately land up in doing those things which we hate to see in our children. we need to change ourselves first before telling our kids to follow us.

Hi, I m quite aggressive mom... although I love my 2 daughters more than anyone... I get fustrated managing them... but I think your experience may be of great help to me..

very true said...... If we are healthy everything wl go smoothly.. first we have to take care of ourself... I liked your information wl definitely implement it...

Perfect...

nice blog... hope after reading this I look forward towards my positive parenting..

It's a perfect article for me

The way you wrote it didnt sound just preaching and dogmatic ... everyone with his her locus of control can do a better job. ..

very nice.. really helpful...

thanks... keep your good work going...

Plz suggest few books abt positive parenting.

It's really help me... i Will definitely try these ...

very practical suggestion... I'm mom of two kids n I use to lose my patience frequently.... ur positive parenting approach is very helpful...

Certainly helpful... keep sharing such blogs..

Thanks Deepti. Certainly Helpful

it was wonderful reading ths pints will surely apply thm n try

Very useful and practical suggestions for avoiding yelling... Though I have already tried some of them but still... Sometimes I lost my patience and yell on my son. But let's hope for the best. Thanks for your guidance.

Very useful information. I exactly needed this information. my baby is only one year n 3 month old bt as we live in join family n due to some frustrations I literally yell very loudly on my baby. And that became an other reason of my disappointment. though I decide to control my anger I do fail every time not to yelling on my so little baby. bt now I have solution by your information. Thank u.

Very thoughtful.. But the yelling happens when we are running out of time... Whether it's the school bus.. Or some classes or parties.. znd they are at the same coolest pace... What can one do in such situations..

Very thoughtful.. But the yelling happens when we are running out of time... Whether it's the school bus.. Or some classes or parties.. znd they are at the same coolest pace... What can one do in such situations..

Hii I'm so happy reading your blog I'm a homeopath and was able to help many parents but recently I started facing the same problem and understood it's not right and sat with my daughter and discuss the same and made a deal I'm happy your article has given me a broader view and will follow and help other parents too

Hi dear.. I like ur blog and it's very helpful thnkew.. Plz share sum more..

definitely worth Reading... i tried some of your points... will work on the rest of them. Thanks for sharing such helpful tips

hi deepti.... main hurrat saify jabalpur se hu mere do bache hain hain ek badi daughter hain or dusra boy hain maine akpa blog pada bhut acha laga asa laga jese mere prblem apne apno zabani likdi ho , apke suggestion main zaru try karugi , but still agar baccja bhut ziddi ho toh tab kese handle kare ...or sab se ziyada handdle karna or mushikil hojata hain jab joint family ho... plz reply

thanx deepti ...but when yrchild screems at u... u can't stay calm... when he/she misbehave every time u say anything to them... how can u be cool

We all know positive method but it becomes difficult to apply even if we want why so...

thanks for the valuable tips.... and yes this article is very true, and all your points are so true. very much agree and following so.

Nice pointers. Thanks for the tips.

A very good feed back

Hi I am a working woman work from home I have 5 year old daughter usually my daughter is alone since most of the time I will be engaged in house hold work and office work and my husband usually leaves early in the morning comes only at night, or when he is in the night night shift most of the times he will be busy sleeping in the morning. Since my daughter is alone she feels bored, and no children are there surrounding our house, she will be engaged in watching cartoon, being repeatedly instructing her not to watch so much cartoon continuosly she will never listen and this makes me shout at her many times please provide me some tips to engage my daughter and to avoid spending hours together in front of TV and computer

I agree

Hello , I m a mother to a 8 yr old active boy can u suggest some parenting books as you just mentioned in yr blog above ...thanku

hi there I HV joined just now n I am happy that I could be the part of it.... as of yelling is concerned.. n kids not listen to you means ..at this point of time kid has lost the respect for u n for ur words.. *. try n speak in soft but firm tone .. *even after ur repeated instructions about completing HW...... leave the child ..let him face the consequences in class..... *our problem is that we try to over protect... which ends in this dis respect...

Pause. Think. Go. Times when our kids do not listen to us first Pause and then Think. What is the reason for our anger? Is it really the child or something else? What is the matter in which child is not listening? Should we allow the kid to face the consequences? This generation learns from experiences and we need to let that happen. Parenting is an art and Parental Coaching is a great tool to make parenting a most enjoyable and satisfying experience.

I agree with u because these methods works.... and even I use these with my kids

Good one... Nice thought...

My 5years son can't listen to me. he is not doing his homework as well as extra study. After school he is watching only and only cartoon otherwise go outside for playing with friends. Never listen to me. i am really fed-up with all these things what should I do for my son

Very good I will definitely try all these suggestions

Good one I Will apply this with my son. Thnx

Good one.

superb I will follow this

i am a working mother and gets tired by the end of the day. when my son doesnt listen i try and avoid beating him , even at times i dont yell but still it happens that i shout at him. now i will try and keep more calm. thanks.

you have covered all the points which we generally come across.. I completely agree to your points and would surely like to follow.. Thanks for the advice

Good advice.. I scream many times to avoid beating him.. This time will follow these not to scream as well.

I followed all these with my elder son and we were going smoothly unless my younger one was born with mental and physical disabilities and myself having tons of health issues from the beginning of my labour. I still try to be calm as much as possible but often lose my temper. fortunately my elder son, who is only 5, understands my present condition and I feel these happened only due to me being calm with my son in his early stage. now when I yell, mostly out of frustration, he says' it's OK mom, I can understand. ' and never let's anyone else to point on me for this including his dear father.

good advice we can try thanks

Hi dear, I agree with all your points and behavioral pattern you have mentioned. Wat I believe every parent is different, every child is different.. with sharing each other experiences.. we mom's can make the life easy for ourselves and for our kids too. Thanks

Good advice will surely try...

nice but my son is 3yr old never listen to me

Thanks Ma'am,i shall try out your trips.

Nice and useful article

yà it's very useful thanks alot you have solved my problem

Thanks mam , for providing a solution to my biggest problem. I will definitely give it a try.

My daughter do the same... it will help me a lot. thanku so much

very nicely written article... infact it depends on the age of the child. My son used to be very aggressive child 2 yrs back.... he will. soon turn 4. He used to bite anywhere anyone anytime... almost everyday i had complaints from school.... so. much that they made him sit seperately... Then my doc gave me few tips... Never shout or punish a child, how ever angry you are... just dont speak or move away somethung ti divert ourselves. we have to do our own anger management only then we can mend our children. Give small little gifts when they do good and take back the gift if they repeat the bad thing again... instead of shouting at kid... explain the consequences of their bad as well as good behaviour. These are few imp tips.... not very difficult to follow but these really helped me and now my son is more matured and his understanding of things is much more than his peers and his communication is excellent.

very well written n easily understandable n more so can be atleast tried

Well compiled... and realistic enough to give a try. Thanx...

yes madadm, the main point is stop pleasing other ..I also realised this few weeks back so m only there for my 2 kids... sometimes I do pending kitchen work later and start palying ball ball activity at home,.. so kids get happiness n me too

nicely written i'll try this on my son but he ignores me n starts playing what to do

Nicely written and thanks for those helpful tips. G. Patil one thing I can say please check the sleeping time of your kid. same thing happened to me I just increased his sleep time, and that worked like magic. Try it once.

Great points. Thanks for this article. Its the need of this our in my case

Nicely written. But I am sorry to say that I have applied this no yelling technique many times but haven't worked for me. Most of the yelling is in morning while waking up and getting ready to school. I can't say it's not an emergency bcoz it is indeed. Me and my husband are tired of this routine. Also my experience says that it's easy to control daughters than some. Any suggestions you would like to make?

very practical loved d write up... will do that

nice blog... usually I face these situations...

Good read and simple solutions. Bingo!

very article . was worth reading

Very nice one Deepti !

yes I do this very often... after which I feel terrible.. though i feel sorry n say so.. sometimes I feel the damage has already been done... what kind of example am I setting

Really practical and I can relate this very well to me. Thank you for sharing your views. Useful one.

Thank you for sharing a nice blog.

ya it's tough to do but it's very very good Thankyou for share

this is really nice and I felt you have actually put in the pints that we go thru and these tips are really helpful

Thank u so much Dipti

hi Deepti.... it's really very nice information... this happens with me when my kids don't listen to me. will try my best to implement it!!!!

Hii deepti. It's really useful information you have shared with us. That's true that not all the points work for everyone but they are important For happy parenting.

the way you have written express the feeling of each mom.... i would like to adopt some of your views in my daily routine.... Thank u so much for sharing

I don't liked it.. I loved your suggestions mam.. every bit of ur sentence was like.. it had written only for me.. thanx a lott mam.. I'll also try harder to b positive. . thanx a lott mam thanx a lott..

Very nice suggestion.. i will try to implement it.. thank u...

great idea to deal with kids . but my only problem is that when i asked them to do any work they just ignore listening .what to do in this case

Really nice article & very practical too . It shows real problem & real solutions. Very inspiring.

Very well deception than for suggesting I ll implement it

I like her positive thought process and yes I can definitely try these points because they are try to the core.....

I agree frm Ur words mam..... But my husband doesn't understand this...... wat to do wen my husband shouts to my daughter......

very nice... im also short tempered... shout on my son.. but gradually in realising that I'm wrong... now I will change myself...

Thanks Deepti this is amazing post

Thanks Deepti for this wonderful post!!your tips of Mutual check and pause statements are interesting. Will definitely try to apply on me, to stop yelling on my lovely twin daughters... who are just 18 months. Knowing the fact that they are very small to even understand what we say, most of the times I end up shouting to keep them calm.

really helpful... i myself hv realised my mistake

Really helpful suggestions... thnx Deepti..

very informative thank u deepti for such a good article

Hi Deepti... Loved ur article.

So cool yaar, really helpful tips. I also find myself in situations when I don't want to yell but end up shouting even on small things n my son do not listen to me at all even if I shout or even slap. I m a working mother of two, 3. 5yrs n 7 months. Frustration is everywhere at home, in-laws, office, relationships, n parenting. I will try your methods to help me be a good mother. I do a lot for my children but nobody understands, n I feel more negative in myself that I m not able to play my roles well, but Ur right dear I m here not to please everyone but are for my children n my work responsibilities. I have to make them good human being. I love my children n my work, have to have a good balance between two. Please write about working mother struggles n how to stay calm n positive..

So cool yaar, really helpful tips. I also find myself in situations when I don't want to yell but end up shouting even on small things n my son do not listen to me at all even if I shout or even slap. I m a working mother of two, 3. 5yrs n 7 months. Frustration is everywhere at home, in-laws, office, relationships, n parenting. I will try your methods to help me be a good mother. I do a lot for my children but nobody understands, n I feel more negative in myself that I m not able to play my roles well, but Ur right dear I m here not to please everyone but are for my children n my work responsibilities. I have to make them good human being. I love my children n my work, have to have a good balance between two. Please write about working mother struggles n how to stay calm n positive..

Love it... like me... got a boost up... was guilty of being bad mother... but I understand all hav same wavelength

Very nice! Can relate to every bit of it.

Thnx for ur parenting tips.

Hey Deepti.. Nice post.. honestly, I could completely relate it to my life and day to day chores. Thanks for sharing this insight, it realises me that yes we should try till we succeed... Afterall upbringing kids to nice human beings is a big task for all moms and our main priority.. Thanks once again for this wonderful post.

Nice msg....

yes I liked them. will apply them as well. thank you.

thanks for simple but really wonderful tips, do keep sharing

Truly inspiring Deepti. Just what I need.

when we pursue something our child a reason to follow it.

Good one.. I'll try for it.

very nice idea. .thanks for sharing. .

Very nice..... this is so useful for me

really good... will try for sure...

Very nice... Thank you so much for sharing

thank you so much I really needed for myself and my daughter.

very nice blog :)

good one... self check of ur actions and dialogue was mass

Nicely put. Really helpful. Thanks for remiding all the moms to take care of them as well, along with the child.

nicely penned,can corelate ...i do repent evrytime I yell at my son... this is goin to help a lot... thanx...

I think I really needed something like this to read. I feel relaxed now. I ll try to follow this.

I think I really needed something like this to read. I feel relaxed now. I ll try to follow this.

Very nice article

It's good n inspiring n positive

this is really help full.... all the points u have mentioned , I experiencing too. negative talks, in free time at night and morning, phone, pleasing everyone at home, not talking care of my self...... becoming difficult for me to give my self and and even to my daughter proper time..... and sometimes even after controlling I yelled at her or give her a slap (that is worse , I know) but couldn't control myself.....

it's really good

Aftr reading this, I realised I was going to same situation and was harsh on my 11 month old son, will try to follow "no more yelling" frm today itself.

Very nice article

Very nice.

hi

mee too facing this prblm wd my 4 yrs daughter Nd I hope this will wrk. if u feel there is an other way to control this yelling plz share as my daughter really get angry very soon Nd hits everyone

nice one.

yup I agree vth u I too yell on my little daughter nw n dn which results into she is so scared of me... for yelling of small issue there r rsn such as triedness I feel more as u said... cz after long day when I think there is no such strong reasons for y I yell on her... vil try as per ur blog

useful information for every mom.

very nice and useful information.

very effective.... but what to do.... when child doesnot do most of d chores by themselves... which can b done by them

Thank you so much for this blog. It's pretttttttty amazing! Lovely lil do its! Thanks!

This is helpful to some extent but what if you said something 10 times to your daughter and she still don't listen to it. What if she irritates every time when i asked her to give me water. There are many things which can't be solved by staying calm. And each and every thing u cannot write or make understand in a blog. I had tried many things it does affect but does not change the situation. Either u have to do with her own way or scolding remains the only option.

I loved this blog.. all points have their own logic..... I knew some theory before but now I m more clear about how to do ....I loved 4 th one mutual check and 5 th one the most..

thanq so much madam for your valuable information

Very nice blog Dipti. I felt as if I'm reading what I'm going through. I totally agree to this and I'm sure by keeping a check on myself I'm becoming a very strong person from inside as well as we create healthy relationships.

Nice blog deepti.. This will help me n my daughter

Thanks. I m definitely try this.

Hi Deepti. I read your suggestions & simply loved them, as they are very simple & logical to follow. Would surely try them , as I too have started yelling at my son, which is very wrong. Thanks Deepti.

Nice one.... would definetly try this out. . Thank u☺

There was no suggestuin about how to make ur child listen without yelling as claimed by the heading of the article... sorry not useful

Thanks a ton for writing this article..... I am pouring out all my warm good motherly wishes on you...... this article is come exactly at the time when I am facing a same situation as has happened with u..... U have penned down everything marvelously and have made it seem that it is achievable.... love u with all m y heart

superb nd thanks for sharing , l m going to trythis

Very useful tips, it needs much more patience. I will definetely try. Thank u.

Very useful tips.. I will try to follow these

Nice suggestions. ....Vl try to implement

Very well written.

No yelling BT how.. :( after telling my 4. 5 yr old daughter not to play wid water ..she ignored me n fill the polybag wid water n put the lots of stuff along wide AC remote in it.. n of course, I yelled at her.. :(

Really a nice one.... vl surely try my bestto get a gud result

Very nice article.... will surely try.

Gd suggestion.. will definately try...

Nice article... seems true with me and my son.. Will try

Good article

really nice to read positive thing. positiveness helps a lot..

Gud suggestions wil definately try

nice

mast

nice suggestions..

will try the next time when my kid is cranky

very nice we all must try

nice article.. surely wil try :)

Good one... Thanks for sharing.. I wil surely try this

Good one

Thanks for sharing

Very helpful and good suggestion

nice suggestions.... will definitely try

Nice article Deepthi

Great article... Really motivating.... Will try to implement

nice im gona try this. hope this works

it's really good... i 'll try it too

i will try these methods wid my children... liked it

Very well articulated Deepti.... and yes when we go back to think that why did we yell or screamed the answers are frustration,tiredness, negativity ... and the child's actions were not so big that we had to yell...... One thing more ... a professional would write and suggest as a professional while a mother would write what she actually practiced.. good write

Nice ones let me also try

really good ways to teach ourselves

nice suggestion. I will try.

nice suggestions ... I don't yell at my child frequently but still I do. So I wld luv to implement it in ma lyf... thanks...

very nice suggetions

nice one

Excellent ideas... I really liked all the tips in the blog.

excellent blog

loved all your ideas... will surely gonna implement wid my kid... thanks for sharing... you gonna be a great contribution to my parenting journey

superb blog.... practical approach to control the anger... n agreed dat v also have to take care of our selves as a happy n healthy mom grows a happy n healthy child

well said.. but i m wrkng mim.. its been difficult fir me to calm myself.. what to do?

well suggested.... though I m following some of them on my own n now I'll try to follow rest of them.... wen u feel low during the course blogs like this motivate u to restart again with full energy... thank u for sharing ur experiences..

superbbbbb , I m gonna follow some of them now as I already applied some at my own. thanku for such a practical approach u shared here.

very well written. mutual check point is superb

nice and agreed

Very positive approach of parenting n hw to control our yelling.

thnx for sharing.. I'm sure its gonna help

I completely agree with point 3 as i too realised the fact with few people and started avoiding those people who makes us feel,that we aren't worthy enough. All other points are clearly penned and very much valid to follow.

all points mentioned are too good.. thanks for sharing

very true and positive too

Very nice n useful blog..